#does this make sesn

[kacievvbbbb]

I think meeting Zoro, someone that is not only just as dedicated to the blade but also just genuinely loves fighting as much as Mihawk does.

And I think seeing that same thrill reflected back at him really opened his eyes to the fact that Shanks didn’t like fighting he just liked fighting him.

And I think that kind of forced him to recontextualize how he thought about their whole relationship and I think that’s a little part of why he decides to end their decade long break.

He’s not gonna fight him cause Mihawk’s a man of principle but he can stay for a drink.

[red-dyed-sarumane]

i was thinking earlier & something i didn't even realize until it was too late was theres kind of been a death of places to be bad at hobbies. dont get me wrong i think people should do whatever they want & its okay to be bad at it BUT even with that sentiment it's different now. when i was growing up people were trying whatever new thing interested them so there were so many beginner level circles of animation & illustration & writing & music etc that were easy to find & get into and have peers at ur level. but now everything has to be perfect for the algorithms so only the best art ever reaches anyone, illustration animation video editing music writing i mean all art, only certain quality gets pushed to an audience and the rest is just. covered up if not lost to time. its harder to find unless u know exactly what ur looking for so its harder to find community at ur own skill level & then when ur constantly faced with things that are professional quality or at least framed as such its so much easier to think u cant do something & that u'll never reach that stage & it seems like other people can just instantly effortlessly do something. idk theres something sad about it to me

[c-kiddo]

In DFY is Caduceus the first member of his family to arrive college??

(im going to assume you mean first to attend, if not,, oops lol), but yeah, at least out of the kids. im not sure about parents or extended family. others that grew up in the same semi-off-grid commune (the dusts and stones and clays all lives more together, have moved apart since, but the clays are in the same place as always) have for sure, and have done other things like apprenticeships.. like khemdal dust is mentioned later, he has done metalworking apprenticeships (and helped cad with trans stuff too sorta, hrt-wise).. but anyways, ya cad is first out of the kids to move away, to parallel canon, like they’re all surprised that its him. i think after he was alone at home a lot he started feeling really trapped and weird (alongside the mental health problems) and did some home-school work, a foundational course thing via their terrible internet maybe, or at a small college in shadycreek run that calliope drove him too and he doesn’t really remember, to be able to make a portfolio and get into a foundation year and get the hell out of there...

(its a bit plot-hole-y and not so realistic but i just wanted to write a college au so,, shrugs. also i had zero qualifications when i went to college things so, oh well. you dont need exams, and we’re here now. its a lot of jumbled decisions within the story and also on my part,, he just wanted to get tf out and was like, Well, i like textiles so i guess i’ll do that. also part of the original idea was just,, i wanted to write textile student cad because i thought it'd be nice to do)

(also if you’re wondering, calliope does different gardening + building work around shadycreek run + helping with the family’s business. and im not sure about colton yet.. . probably something similar)

[venomgender]

they need tk make more cross dressing yaois that are good

[tirednerd2012]

Jonathan Byers genuinely loves his little brother so much and I think I relate to him a lot because I'm also the oldest sibling. I'm probably going to be posting A LOT about Jonathan for a bit. Just a fair warning, I'm back on a Stranger Things kick and I have a lot of opinions.

When he and Steve got in the fight, Jonathan tried to walk away. He even managed to get Nancy to walk away from it, but then Steve brought Joyce up. Jonathan got more pissed off, but he walked away. He brought up Lonnie, still got mad but kept walking. The moment Will got brought up, Jonathan stops and he is beyond livid and that is when he fights back. I may get some backlash for this one, but Peg was right in some sesne when she told Nancy only love makes you that stupid and crazy, but it wasn't Jonathan's love for Nancy but rather his love for Will that drove him in that fight. I'm not saying Jonathan doesn't absolutely adore Nancy, because he does, but he was going to walk away until Will got brought up. Jonathan would walk through hellfire for Will, and resort to violence for his sake even though Jonathan despises violence.

Jonathan also wanted to go to the Upside Down to find Will. He didn't care about his safety in the matter, he wanted Will back and that was his only thought. He snapped at Hopper and told him that Will was his brother when Hop told him he couldn't go. So what does Jonathan decide to do? He decides he is going to lure the killer monster to his house to face him (and Nancy, later Steve) to give his mom a better chance at finding Will. Also I think it goes to show you how much Will also loves Jonathan by his excited, relieved "Jonathan" the moment he wakes up at the hospital AND THEN HE ASKS HIM ABOUT HIS HAND. Will had just been through absolute hell and the first thing he does is ask Jonathan if he's okay.

In season 2, there's this moment after Will was possessed that he is laying on the couch unconscious and Jonathan is kneeling beside him, guarding over him while playing with his hair and apologizing and telling Will that he should have been there for him. There's also the moments where Jonathan carried Will so carefully and tried to be gentle with him.

Also, Jonathan's reaction to Will's exorcisim. The sight of his little brother in pain brings Jonathan to tears and he wants to stop it. Nancy and Joyce both have to stop him from ending the entire thing.

Another moment I feel like isn't talked about enough is Jonathan after the hospital fight in season 3. He had the shit beat out of him, and honestly how he was able to walk was beyond me. But even in his injured state, he throws himself in front of Will at the first sign of danger and literally uses himself as Will's shield.

A lot more posts to be made centered around Jonathan Byers.

[raisinchallah]

you know im trying to read the traitor baru cormorant but idk i know im being extremely pedantic and this is partially from my knowledge of the development of modern psychiatry and eugenics and whatever but im like really having a hard time buying the level of centralized social control and policing upon peoples like thoughts to the point they have apparently a complex psychiatric prison system to dispense aversion therapy to people accused of adultery in a world powered by sail ships like who came up with these ideas how were they so widely implemented is there a falcresti darwin or freud and frankly the level of comical over the top homophobic control again i find very hard to believe when there seems to be no misogyny or even that extreme of gender roles like they find baru odd for dressing a bit masculine but nothing more there does not seem to be a push to get married there is very little discussion of marriage or anything surely if being seen as gay is so catastrophic for you socially and legally baru should be married as a ranking official or like it should be another part of the racist exclusion from society that she is not able to get married that its too politically complex to marry someone from aurdwynn and shes not considered assimilated enough or something to marry a falcresti man idk im sure this is what people who know too much about like feudal economics feel when they read most fantasy novels but surely in a world that does not seem to have the industry based around cities or speedy transit and passage of mail or other things to further interconnect people that moves the engine of social control from the local community to the state idk how half these things would be happening let alone like who wrote out a theory of evolution that was used as a basis for these particular eugenicist beliefs like idk again maybe im insane here but this feels so hmm idk how to put it but i feel liek this both comes from a lack of understanding of other imperialist ideologies and justifications for itself and idk the actual history and development of these specific loci of control and idk the other social and economic factors but also i just idk find it very silly how every single page someone is saying something homophobic or about the violent oppression of gay people like please be real here even some of the most homophobic societies on earth could not bother with the sheer scope of effort expended here and yet again they also seem to have zero weird gender roles or expectations of heterosexual marriage like surely that would radically change things ok whatever this makes no sesne

[goat-guy-tm]

Omg the "Garroth died and well. Didnt" post is such a thing. I love it and want more info (plsss) ❤️ but solid solid

First off THANK YOU <3, secondly it is a complicated thing to explain. I have done a lot of extra world building for my mcd rewrite, and one of the big things to say first is that Phoenixes, are in fact a thing. Albeit, extremly rare. Basically one per realm type rare.

Irene had a Phoenix in her hay days, and it's believed (in my rewrite) that maybe that's why Phoenix Drop got the name it did from Malik (since the relation to Irene, and all that). And, surprise surprise, there is in fact a Phoenix that lives there, originally in the ruins of Malik's old house, and when Garroth and some of the PD citizens go looking around it, Garroth, who in my rewrite becomes the next Lord of PD, finds the Phoenix, and in my rewirte something called 'Pact of the Phoenix' exists.

A pact is made between a mortal and a Phoenix. The mortal is gifted a near mastery of fire magicks and basically a promised semi-immortal life, and in exchange the Phoenix is to live along side them, to be protected and cared for, to be given a tie to the realm the mortal belongs to.

This, is how Garroth miraculously 'undeaths' after having his throat slit in his sleep. None of them in PD know about this, and Garroth intended to keep it secret, as a journal in Malik's basement mentioned keeping it secret for the Phoenix's saftey, but it's hard for him to explain how he just, undies.

I'll also use this as an opportunity to show off this sheet of Garroth in my rewrite, it's not 100% up to date, but it's mostly still correct. Mainly just to share the tattoos he has BECAUSE of the pact. The Phoenix lives in those...if that makes sense? I think it does.

(Click it for better quality, probably.♡)

And yes if anyone can sesne it this was originally inspired by Blue Exorcist.

[hmshermitcraft]

Time for some Ex and Zed (who is not worm-man)

When zedaph bumped into evil x in season 8 he was not expecting the guy to get so excited about seeing him. The two of them never really interacted? He had hrabbed zed and pulled him to the empire to show him around, even bringing him to his own room. He seemed so proud showing off all this progress he had made.

Zedaph had no idea what the guy was talking about but he went along with it, talking like he did know. He disnt want to be rude.

He did not expect to it leading to him being kidnapped and taken to a private nether fortress far from the hermits. Ex was there, going off about how now he could never get taken from him and they could be a happy duo safe in the neyher again! Zedapph didnt understand. He tried to explain to ex that he belonged with the hermits but ex wasn't having it. He called him "worm-man" which didn't make much sense. He talked all about these supposed adventures they had together and how he just kinda... Dissapearsd one day. How heartbroken ex had been because of it.

Ex was tempermental, that zed could very well see. He belives that ex may have confused him for someone else, but he truly wanted to help. He does his best to play into the role, helping ex.

Ex does eventually let him move freely arounf the server again (it only took about a week), as long ad hes not too far. He was worried for zed. Zed finds it almost cute, if a little scary. It was a side he had never sesn of ex.

Ex eventually confesses to him that he loves him and zedaph doesnt know what to do. He had fallen for ex but... Well it was all under a fake name and identity that was kinfa forced on him. He didnt know what to do.

💭

He doesn't want to live a lie for the rest of his life. If he's dating Ex then he wants it to be him. Not a stranger that Ex sees in him.

But Ex is volatile. Zed has seen that - the man kidnapped him! That's not normal! He's scared of what would happen if he said no, or if he tries to get Ex to understand. Ex won't listen to him. Which- Zed would like somebody that listens to him too!

He ends up saying yes. He ends up hating himself for it - but he wants Ex. He enjoys his company, he enjoys the way Ex watches over him. He takes interest in his experiments and aspects of Zed. But all in the image of 'Worm Man'. But... If he can get Ex just a little then... He'll take that. He'll lie.

[brick-a-doodle-do]

you know I've always got your back in the questions department :3

alrighty questions for four way street au

What are Wilbur and Technos goals as villains? We talking petty crimes, cause chaos for fun a spite heroes, Dr doofensmirtz villain levels or Avenger level threats?

What is Tommy's reason for going undercover? What do the heroes want him to do?

Is this fic one of those the villains are actually the villains, or the heroes are the villains story? I wanna know.

Does Phil have a role in this?

Hero, Villain and sidekick names PLEASE!!!

So what's Tommy's thoughts about the double dates?

annnnnnnnnnnd that's what I can muster rn <3

YIPPEEEEEE THANK YOU BECKYU I CHERISH YOUR ASKS <333

1. it started with techno, who noticed an uprising in "heroes" around the country. at first he was wary of it but then it advanced and they started running things and established themselves "on top" and kinda just ruined the flow of everything, so techno stood up. i think it'd be pretty cool if techno kinda relied on manifestations to inflict pain on the heroes at first, super low-key and just for his own satisfaction. but then he got really good at it and for some weird-universe-reason it turned into something he can just ... do on command ,,,,,,, so THEN he established himself as a villain, karrohaird (he wanted porker but niki closed that down pretty quick), and became pretty popular.

as for wilbur, he also wasn't a fan of the heroes running everything so he tried out for what karrohaird was doing, using an old book he's had since childhood that had always yielded positive results when he conducts a spell that lets him get his way for the day. he

and that's kind of how techno formed a dislikal of sophos (wilbr), because wilbur copied what he's doing (he considers it unoriginal which isn't a huge deal to him but when he playfully points it out, wilbur does make it a big deal)

so it's petty crimes and spite heroes cause eventually the heroes do try to up their game. idk. im just here for an angelduo scene

2. tommy goes undercover because he knows he'll create unnecessary conflict if wilbur and techno find out he's friends/allies with both of them (which isn't exactly the case but tommy still would never risk it). so for wilbur/sophos he's his vigilante self, and with karrohaird he's tommy

3. i mean it's kinda both, technically they're keeping crime active in the city but it's for a good cause in the longrun

4. YES!!!!! he does! he and tommy hang out a lot, he's basically half-adopted at this point, but wilbur and techno don't know that :D also it's been established that he's kind of a safezone if he's ever in trouble <33 dadza beloved

5. not sure who heroes are (eventually i will and there names will be revealed :D)....BUT i have already mentioned wilbur as sophos and techno as kairrohaird, i'm not sure about tommy, maybe discord and i can make it he just stole it from the app,, but also it makes sesne for tommy cause yk. discord. chaos.

niki is also in this as an occasional villain, she's a family friend with wilbur n techno so she knows both of their secrets, and also tommy lives with her as a tiny. (in this au he kinda just made up the term '"borrower" cause he wanted to save money. also he and niki can gossip about twinsduo sdjvdj) niki's villain name would maybe be neptune ?? i say that cause she helped design wilbur's outfit so they could go for a matching thing :D anddd powers im thinking maybe wind manipulation ?> idk the origin of it but 🤷‍♀️

6. tommy's thoughts are that it's absolutely hilarious and he would do anything to keep it up lmao

[caruliaa]

goldi has lesbian energy the same way ivy has lesbian energy except minus the presence of a female character to actually be lesbians with . does that even make sesne.

[theinsanecrayonbox]

alrighty, we are amending this, now that there's some canon to incorporate

easy things though; 1: the Olinka lore stays the same 2: we are not listening to the new timestamp 3: i guess i'll accept the older brother Vassily (i mean it does add nice layers of older men controlling Arkady...) 4: Yuri is still a major part of this

so new lore!

Arkady was born looking normal; he did not have the deathly pale skin. around age 12 (or the age he seems to be in the Infinity comic) though there was an accident, he fell through ice, got fished out, but technically drowned/had hypothermia. He was taken to Natsya's mother, but his healing factor also triggered, thus his miraculous revival helped perpetuate the idea that Natsya and her mother were witches. This though really helped start his friendship with Natsya. His powers though were not fully developed/controllable at this age though; they'd trigger at large injuries/physical trauma (like Vassily burning his hand) but for the most part his death spores were inert, he just retained the deathly white skin. (this fits into canon, but still gives me my "powers triggered upon first death")

Fast forward a few years, Vassily being old enough to work at the steel mill but Arkady not quite yet or is just starting to work there. He and Natsya are still technically outcasts, but they're outcasts together. Cue Yuri's family arriving in town; they're still destitute due to the Leningrad stuff, but maybe the male head of house was brought in to take over the steel mill now. Arkady gets a confusing crush on Yuri. He hurt on the mill's grounds; Yuri catches him healing; the two develop a secret relationship. Natsya is heartbroken by this (both because everyone sort of assumed she and Ark would get married, but also the fact that her bestfriend didn't trust her with this knowledge earlier), but she's happy he's happy...but also has seen Yuri be less than pleasant. Yuri is more physical, because Arkady can take it, and because of hints that this was done to him at home...When Yuri finds out Natsya knows about them, he flips out and wants her dead, but Arkady refuses, because she would never betray him like that.

Vassily is still the one to out them, (but Arkady didn't know thta, so thus in Weapon X-Force the "lolz I turned you in brother" makes sesne), and they run, but now Yuri goes off about how it must've been Natsya who did it, and Arkady comes close to abandoning him...but Yuri gets manipulative, saying things "we're the only family we've got now; you're my home now" so yeah. Thus they go to the city and get an apartment; their cats that Arkady has referenced are now stray cats he cared for and Yuri just let him with minimal complaints. Arkady gets drafted into the Army stuff (again, where a sample of his dna was taken and Olinka comes across it eventually and goes "i want that one for my science"), Yuri winds up working border patrol. Arkady is sent away to the Antarctic, gets outted, and gets executed, but again his death spores release and his healing factor kicks into overdrive to revive him and kills a portion/the base he's stationed at.

Now though, when he leaves the base and heads back home to Yuri, he finds a strange man at their place. Fearing that this guy hurt or was planning to hurt his lover, Arkady ends up killing him with this death spores (he still doesn't have a full grasp on controlling them). After that though, he discovers that Yuri was actually in their apartment...in the bedroom...and he's dead now, due to the spores. Arkady is beside himself, because he didn't know he was there and he never wanted to hurt him (and is so distracted by grief he easily misses the clear signs that the strange man was living there, with Yuri, that Yuri had been cheating on him while he was in the Army). I could see Olinka and her crew walking in on that scene (this was his listed home address after all, so why not start the manhunt there) and she starts monologuing about great science or whatever, so an emotionally wrecked and angry Arkady manages to fight his way out of there (possibly by jumping through a window) and evades capture, fleeing across Europe right up until Banshee catches him for Interpol, who then returns him to Russia, to Olinka's hands.

This still doesn't erase the potential of the crimes his dossier says he was charged with, but it still very much leaves it open that those charges could have been trumped up by the KGB so Interpol would willingly hand him back to them and not question anything (it is also open that mayhap the children going missing in the Antarctic was from one of his basemates, so the base just pinned it on Arkady as scapegoat).

This does though make Yuri much darker and controlling and manipulative than I had originally thought...but I am totally fine with that. He might even be a slight bit older than Arkady, adding to the controlling dynamic. Arkady might not have been as violent as we were led to believe as a child, but Yuri still encouraged what was there and reveled in it (Vassily was physically abusive, Yuri was emotionally). And when Arkady wasn't immediately useful to him, he found someone else...

But since his home town had run him out, and even though he never thought Natsya woudl betray him he didn't know of anyone else that would've outted him, and loosing the only person who claimed to "love" him, he never thought of returning home.

[venomgender]

yaoi is yaoi no matter what place of origin of course though i tend to read more manhwas than manga just beacuse. nature of bato uploads i guess idk. but man. nothing better in life than being able to read bls thats a manga where i can turn my brain off to colors

[travescharic]

hi i’m rambling abt shit

dude ok i hage washing pots. not because i’m lazy or anything but because it physically hurts my already aching wrists !!! and whenever i bring this uo!! my fuckin dad is like “yeah you’ve got osteobonehurtyarthriris of your left wrist and a shoelace in the right and we’re gonna have to punp you with a big needle” like dude i’m sorry i can’t ?? wash a pot. ??? because i havé something wrong with my wrists???

and then i’ll get upset and my mom is like “well he’s just aggravating you on purpose, his dad was like that” ????? THAT DOES???? NOT MAKE ANY SESNE ??? DUDE HE WAS AN ALcoHolic do you see me chugging beer .

and then SOMEtimes i’ll be like “well he’s bipolar.. maybe i should get over it” NO babe you are 17 years old almost BREATHE babygirl he won’t hurt you anymore….. kisses mhself…. sorry i got gay at the end

[angelica4equity]

Like this is the least Anti Claire Bear take and still makes the most sesne for her character bc i guarantee you their relationship makes no sense otherwise?!?? I was watching these perisex cishets react to S2 and they were totally eating Clairecarmy up mostly because all of Carm's family liked her. But I'm like....?? His family is fucked up? And they show time and time again they don't really know Carmy as an adult and don't trust him to make his own choices. And he consistently chooses Sydney who is like the ONLY person who actually gets him AND his fucked up family without enabling it as Claire does?!

Claire is the mother Carmy has always wanted.

Claire is seen this season caring for young boys. She takes care of and successfully distracts a young boy to take a shot and putting a bone back in its place.

The scene where she fixes a bone - seems familiar? It's connected to the story in 2x02, Pasta, where Claire describes wanting to understand a young girl's injuries from a broken arm. She never said she was interested in fixing it, rather she wanted to understand it. Carmy's question about whether she wanted to fix it was projecting, hoping she could heal his childhood wounds.

If only Donna were as gentle and happy as Claire, who imagines fixing kids' injuries, maybe he'd be different. Maybe he could enjoy life more and be happier if he were taken care of.

From the beginning, Claire disarms carmy when he sees her smile. Something Donna barely did.

And she's known as Disarming Carmy in a few articles. I think the song "Disarm" from season 3 relates to Claire in the sense that her own happy disposition disarmed Carmy's wounded inner child, and it's what he hopes Donna could be.

"Disarm" by Smashing Pumpkins as played on 3x10 Forever

It's carmy hoping Claire heals his inner child the whole time. It's a song that has to do with our inner children wounded and attempting to find healing.

The relationship was never going to work because Carmy is stuck in the hope that he could have had a different childhood and that he could fix it in the present.

What solidifies this is Fak sharing stories of Carmy never being happy because of Donna and losing his childhood. Fake hopes in some way Claire could heal Carmy.

Claire, after giving it some thought or at least considering it, closes the book and informs the Faks that it's finished. There's a part of Claire that also wants to help heal Carmy's inner child wounds, but ultimately, he has to fix himself.

No woman could be his mother or babysitter.

Makes these two scenes all the more significant:

Take note of the two scenes where Chef Terry and Sydney are wearing scarves with lines. Even though Sydney calms Carmy, she firmly tells Carmy that she's not there to fix whatever inner damage he has. She is a peaceful figure in his life, but she's not the babysitter and calming influence Chef Terry was for Carmy. Sydney has her own problems and journey that Carmy has to understand and assist with as the series progresses.

There is something about the influence of women in Carmy's life and the connections he must make to grow. However, there's a line between using these women as a stepping stone towards growth and using these women as his source of inspiration. He has to heal his inner child to become the man he wants to be without relying on the women to babysit or care for him unequally.

"You gotta figure that parent shit out first"

-Joanna Calo

Tagging: @currymanganese @whenmemorydies @vacationship @fresaton @moodyeucalyptus @ambeauty

[luthien-under-bough]

OK okay…Here I go, it's not exactly spicy, but I guess Luth will prolly make it spicy but, ok..here goes. I thought of it because other anon said it's so cute him taking her around DS like he did in KL. But I also thought if she isn't sure about a surprise when he mentions it at first.Hear me out, that moment between him saying bye to her and Daemon opening his body eyes I'm sure was eternal. So I wonder if she will be ok with him wanting to run her around DS? Does that make sesne?

What I mean is if he says he has a surprise for her will she worry if he's up to it yet? I just think she's going to be over protective and a worry wort over his recovery. So ok, I'm not making sense. The whole point of that is to say the hawt idea it inspired right? So he gets her to go with him and takes her to, like other Anon said that amazing hot spring, special place.

Daemon wants them to enjoy the spring together of course. His excuse is the heated water will be good for his muscles. It's just a great night, one thing leads to another of course and things start to get physical. And I thought it would be very sweet and also hawt if he gets her riled up. She's not sure if they should actually have sex yet. If he's up for it.

But he can reassure her that he's ok. I think he tells her before he's not going anywhere, or he won't leave her. I just think that she has a thing about people leaving her.. like her mum. And also about his recovery. And I even making sense?

All of that to say after convincing her, they have outercourse in the hot spring. It's a compromise to them both. She just worries. But they want each other enough that they do. The Daemyra fandom needs more outercourse. There's too little. I hope this made sense. Ok Thoughts?

OK ANON, I am picking up what you're putting down for sure. There's spice here - and it's also very sweet! A lovely mix.

I think you make some excellent points here - Rhaenyra would definitely be worried about his recovery, especially after losing her mum. As a ghost he was essentially indestructible, and even though now having him in the flesh is so much better, there's a fragility to it that makes her afraid.

I'm digging the outercourse idea! WHAT IF in order to reassure her - they return to their roots? Daemon tells her to close her eyes, and just listen to his voice. It brings her back to those early days before they could touch, when she just got herself off listening to him talk to her. Only now it's so much better because she can feel him and he can touch her too. He just holds her against him in his lap, she rubs herself against him, or rides his thigh - still super intimate and hot without the penetration.

Thank you for this! A lovely thing to wake up to in my inbox! :)

[paceywittergayboatman]

Shiv CEO thoughts csa incest and rape tw

Now I've changed my mind I think shiv being CEO makes perfect sense while I think I was in a sesne correct ken would be CEO I think he's much more like a in the words of rhoa a bone carrier and he will eventually end up in the back seat because of the way that all came about but Ewan and ken are similar there's a line where Ewan describes ken in way to say I don't like him but he just ends up describing himself the idea here that shiv is Logan to kens Ewan actually makes perfect sense

The idea that ken emotional and romantic life is akin to Logans but shiv takes his role as the middle child comepletes the puzzle ken ultimately puts the family back in the company to get rid of the remains but shivs foolishness her want for power so she can feel something makes her a leader that is willing to risk thoughtfully

However I don't think I could've that conclusion in that way that fully counts in the family truama and the circular nature if I hadn't figured the tom shiv family incest rape essentially she becomes in charge because she couldn't truly be saved by her brother and her mother didn't care enough it's a tragedy of maternal figures who fail but in their determination to live outside of the Logan fail

Shiv is in sense doesn't make the sacrifices ken and Caroline make she's is Traumatized she's still a persphone Jocasta figure but she isn't the oldest and while she does have middle daughter Insightfulness the emotional sacrifice ken makes for his family takens over his ability to function to the point he goes crazy but shivs big truama come from outside forces that are in facy secretly inside forces

Tom is her cousin but he is also her rapist he is also her husband shiv gets move on like Logan does when rose dies Ewan takes on maraine who is roses daughter and raises her but Logan doesn't have to just like shiv didn't have to take care of the children that happened via rose being raped and yes shiv was raped and her abuser is her husband she also was not involved in how her children from date rape from when she was a child were raised shiv has the truama but the children they were never hers in a sense

The irony is that the children she has from tom now will be just as related to her original twins Greg and Josh's kid kitty because they all have tom as the dad unlike Logan who's baby's mama are still separate women shiv never gets to live beyond on her truama she becomes and in circles it and keeps begging for the one thing that traps her father spirit

Essentially the shiv CEO truthers were correct however shiv as CEO can't be well understood without the persphone Jocasta incest survivor rape survivor context is the most prevalent part she is foolish like her father and traumatized we know where he scars are yet she can hide them well

I will also say I was right about ken but I wasn't right on what his position as CEO meant and how Long it would be